The situation is similar to the period of the first three Georges of Great Britain, who were both Kings of Great Britain and Electors (later Kings) of Hanover. I prefer the original proposals for Germany and Estonia, I really like the Dutch nordic flag! [6][7][8] Due to its high presence at the Dresden Pegida demonstrations, the flag was also referred to as the "Pegida flag" in some media reports. According to his idea, the flag was to become the new flag of Germany after the successful assassination attempt against Hitler and the transfer of power to the conspirators. "[1] The Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung quotes Robert von Steinau-Steinrck, chairman of the 20 July 1944 Foundation, with the assessment that waving the Wirmer flag at extremist and xenophobic events mocks what Josef Wirmer stood for: a free and tolerant society. It would be nice to find out more about the meaning and origin of this flag. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 19:34, 10 May 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply], Not only is it a new and different flag, but I'm fairly certain it predates the United States in any case. I think the German flag would look Incidentally, the Wirmer design corrected the heraldic error in the color sequence of the tricolour. The German tricolor, both in liberal colors and nationalist colors, looks stupid. A black double-headed eagle with the combined arms of Austria and, A black double-headed eagle with the coat of arms of, Banner of the Holy Roman Emperor and state flag of the HRE, Another banner of the Holy Roman Emperor and state flag of the HRE, A black double-headed eagle without haloes on a yellow field. A non-rectangular flag depicting an Imperial Eagle in the center of a white field, and in the upper-left corner, an Iron Cross is shown. [5] As a result, the flag became popular in the movement, which at the time received little media and social attention and was thus increasingly used by right-wing extremist and populist groups, which were met with criticism from various sides. The German tricolor, both in liberal colors and nationalist colors, looks stupid. and the nordic cross probably comes from the Teutonic order flag and the colors are the imperial german colors Hitler wanted to use. The Wirmer flag remained well known in vexillologist circles and appeared in corresponding publications. At various times in the past, nordic cross flags have been proposed for Germany, and Royal Standard of the Grand Duchess of Hesse. [16] The flag was to serve as a new national flag after the assassination of Adolf Hitler by Claus Schenk Graf von Stauffenberg and the takeover of government power by the bourgeois resistance groups involved, as they did not want to adopt the black-red-gold tricolour of the Weimar Republic.The colors, however, were intended to integrate the democratic forces, while the reference to the flags of the Scandinavian countries and the Christian symbolism were also intended to appeal to the conservative circles among the officers, who hated the Weimar Republic with its flag. A subreddit for those who enjoy learning about flags, their place in society past and present, and their design characteristics. Here are some more mashups. A stubborn porcupine: heredity & nationhood. Today, the Nordic cross is a feature in some city and district flags or coats of arms. Greece is the nicest one. The same as the previous flag, but the crown in the top of the flag is smaller. It looks like the Swedish flag, so I guess it should be on this page too. A Nordic cross flag is a flag bearing the design of the Nordic or Scandinavian cross, a crosssymbol in a rectangular field, with the centre of the cross shifted towards the hoist. These flags are highly questionable and were removed from the article page: Inge 18:30, 27 July 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply], I have removed the Unofficial "Teutonic-Celtic" flag because it appears to have been designed by a Wikipedian for use in Template:User Teutonic-celtic origin; see Image talk:Nordic-celtic flag.svg. This flag was interesting. Its Saarland offshoot, the Democratic Party Saar (DPS), reversed the eagle's viewing direction to the (heraldic) right. WebThe Norway flag is a red flag with a blue cross with white borders. The Norwegian flag was the first Nordic cross flag with three colours. All independent Nordiccountries have adopted such flags in the modern period, and while the Nordic cross is named for its use in the national flags of the Nordic nations, the term is used universally by vexillologists, in reference not only to the flags of the Nordic countries but to other flags with similar designs. First discussed by the Parlamentarischer Rat ("Parliamentary Council") in 1948/49 as the federal flag, the design served in modified form as the party flag of the Christian Democratic Union of Germany (CDU) from 1953 until around 1970 and as the model for the Free Democratic Party's (FDP) party symbol. ONE DAY? Perhaps I've played too much Hearts of iron doomsday, but the empire's flag is the best imo. Since then, the Wirmer flag has appeared more and more frequently at events of right-wing extremist and right-wing populist groups in Germany, such as the German Defence League,[28][29] Hogesa,[30] pro NRW,[31] and in large numbers at the weekly Pegida demonstrations in Dresden,[22] as a "neo-conservative battle sign". 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WebNordic flag designs very similar to Denmark's, Sweden's, and Norway's national flags were proposed as Germany's national flags in both 1919 and 1948, after World War I and He said that it was basically the distortion of all the ideas that his father's flag represented. Wandering the information superhighway, he came upon the last refuge of civilization, PoFo, the only forum on the internet January 18, Wednesday Bab. A black double-headed eagle with an escutcheon of the coat of arms of Charles V on a yellow field. Here's a Nordic Ellan Vannin: Apr 25, 2012. I have also removed the unsubstantiated reference to Gaelic heritage, and since there is no Irish dimension I replaced "British Isles" with "Great Britain". Nordic flag designs very similar to Denmark's, Sweden's, and Norway's Nordic flag designs very similar to Denmark's, Sweden's, and Norway's national flags were proposed as Germany's national flags in both 1919 and 1948, after World War I and World War II, respectively. Thereafter, it continued to be used, presumably only for cost reasons, in the local and district associations until the 1970s. Around the eagle and crown, words spell the phrase: Royal Standard of the Crown Prince of Prussia. This is the historical flagoftheKalmarUnion, which united Denmark, Sweden and Norway from 1397 to 1523. Why shouldn't there be a Nordic cross on it? But I think it is interesting that the two are so similar and I want to know more. These flags either do not have official status or represent various private entities. Used in conjunction with the, Flag of World Vexillological Research Institute. I would hava added it, but I didn't find it in Wikipedia articles (and I don't know the exact dimensions and colour codes). Most people who are unfamiliar with the Scandinavian languages will look under a when searching for , just like is generally seen as a variant form of t by those who are not aware of its proper place in the Icelandic alphabet. The Young Union adopted as its symbol a badge with a color row like Neubecker's design: a red cross outlined in gold on a black background. Flag of Saarland which was given by French Government. Found this flag at an antique mall. The tricolour of the Weimar Republic received 35 percent, 15 percent favored the "cross flag," 10 percent rejected both proposals, and 40 percent expressed indecision or disinterest. Flag of the PrincipalityofSnakeHill, a micronation in Australia. They (except for the Teutonic order flag) are called Reichskriegsflagge(n) , which basically means imperial war flag. The DPS justified the look to the right with the representation of the song "Die Wacht am Rhein" ("The Watch on the Rhine") towards the West. PSA: This is NOT the flag of the Byzantine Empire. It will enhance any encyclopedic page you visit with the magic of the WIKI 2 technology. Today, the Nordic cross is a feature in some city and district flags or coats of arms. Flag bearing the design of the Nordic or Scandinavian cross, "Nordic flag" redirects here. Still appearing in street demonstrations. Flag of the Grand Duchy of Oldenburg (1871), Read more about this topic: Nordic Cross Flag, No annual training or muster of soldiery, no celebration with its scarfs and banners, could import into the town a hundredth part of the annual splendor of our October. For the Nordic Council flag, see. [20] The bill's draft read: "The flag of the Federation shows a black cross lying on a red background with a superimposed golden cross." Its a censored version used in the game Hearts of Iron 4. Probably because of the flag of the Teutonic Order: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_the_Teutonic_Order, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichskriegsflagge, There's a lot of Prussian symbolism in the flag, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Cross, after years,, i finally have found what the white flag with a black nordic cross meant.. thank you, kind stranger. Flag of Ladonia, a micronation in southern Sweden. Here are some more mashups. [28], There are no legal restrictions on the Wirmer flag - unlike the Reichskriegsflagge ("imperial war flag"), which produces a similar effect, and which even in the version without the swastika can be seized by the police for "violation of public order". After gaining independence the other Nordic countries adopted national flags of the same design, Iceland in 1915 and Finland in 1917. I am not aware of any treaty that requires a municipality to get permission from a country to use a similar flag design. Show Notes Part I of II. It is not a Nordic cross. "[28], Proposed national flag of the Federal Republic of Germany, Usage by right-wing extremist and right-wing populist groups, Harry D. Schurdel: Symbol der Freiheitsidee. Hope you don't mind this! The flag is discussed in the flags of the world website [1] Scott Hatton, on 6 October 2005 comments in a post on the Lewis flag discussion within the Western Isles community, "Barra and Lewis were generally deemed as authentic, South Uist slightly less so" It should be noted that the flag of Barra is available from Mr Flag [2] and A A Flags [3]. Close. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. In a poll in the Parliamentary Council, 25 percent of the members voted for a return to the black-red-gold tricolour in the tradition of the Weimar Republic, 35 percent had no opinion or abstained. Political issues and parties in Europe's nation states, the E.U. Thats good enough for me. Service flag of the Free State of Prussia, The same as the previous flag, but the phrase, Flag of the German Confederation, used in 18481849 and again in 18631866. The flag is indeed in use. The image name in the commons is unchanged, though. Die Flaggen der Nordischen Lnder weisen eine Gemeinsamkeit auf: das skandinavische Ernst Wirmer, now a member of the Parlamentarischer Rat (Parliamentary Council), persuaded the delegates of the Union parties and the German Party to adopt his brother's second draft on 16 October 1948, and to propose it on 5 November, while the Social Democratic Party of Germany (SPD) preferred the old tricolour of the Weimar Republic which prevailed in the end. Royal Standard of Greece (1863). [12] He made two proposals for this: firstly, a tricolour in this color sequence, and secondly, a red Nordic Cross, outlined in gold, on a black background. Denmark. The Wirmer Flag (German: Wirmer-Flagge), also known commercially as the flag of German Resistance 20 July or the Stauffenberg flag,[1][2] is a design by Josef Wirmer. Files are available under licenses specified on their description page. The motion of the Union was rejected and the old tricolour was designated the new federal flag by a large majority.[21][22]. In 1844, pro-German nationalists in the two duchies of Holstein and Schleswig created a blue-white-red tricolour as a symbol for independence which began to see widespread use. JoDiggler 26 days ago. The states appointed representatives to the Parlamentarischer Rat, which in the end voted on the flag of the new Germany. [26] For example, in 1981 the political scientist Theodor Eschenburg interviewed Ernst Wirmer about his brother's flag designs. WebSwiss Cross Vintage Pennant Flag Wall Decor, Neutral Nursery Scandinavian Boho Hanging Canvas Banner, Swiss Cross Flag, Kids Room Sign 5 out of 5 stars (6,988) $ 15.00. Only one that can beat it is the empire's battle flag. WebNordic Cross Flag of Canada.png 1,024 768; 11 KB. Josef Wirmer's son Anton expressed appalment. Does anyone know if Wilmington has sought permission to do this? Most municipalities have unique flags. I have left it unchanged. Josef Wirmer was arrested, sentenced to death, and executed on 8 September 1944. At the party congress of 1822 April 1953, the CDU adopted a cross flag as the party flag and escutcheon, based on Josef Wirmer's design. And an article titled Nordic Cross Flag and about flags bearing a Nordic cross could probably do without the Nordic flags without the Nordic cross section. 3rd IPCC report out today. The text should be changed. On the cross rested an eagle with the party initials facing (heraldically) left. Why is there a moon logo in the top left of my watch face? Above all, it stands for a free and tolerant society. This violated the heraldic rule of tincture that between "colors" (here black and red) there must always be a "metal" (gold/yellow or silver/white). A red field charged with a gold- fimbriated black Nordic cross that extends to the edges. These crossflags seem wierd. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_Sovereign_Military_Order_of_Malta.svg, This flag should be mentioned in the section "Flags elsewhere that feature the Nordic Cross or similar design", I am not sure if this flag is really a Nordic Cross flag. Hanover was not part of Great Britain; rather it was a separate possession of the reigning English monarch. A Nordic wave from crest to crest, a Baltic particle from edge to edge. Klauber Flag produces and sells this flag in all sizes on http://www.klauber-flag.dk/flag.asp?cmd=details&flag=1167. In December 1948, the Allensbach Institute for Public Opinion Research polled about 1,000 people in the three western zones about their preferences concerning a national flag. [16] The second design is repeatedly wrongly attributed to Ernst Wirmer himself. The Germanic peoples all originated in what is today Sweden, so I fail to see the problem. [citation needed], Allied Control Council (19451949) and Saar Protectorate. The FlagofGreenland is the only national flag of a Nordic country or territory without a Nordic Cross. "It is now or never" to massively act on climate change, The Middle Corridor to revolutionise global trade , Muscovy is out of the game for han- China, Democrat Control Freaks Want To Ban Gas Stoves. In 1999, Reinhold Oberlercher, the thought leader of the Neo-Nazi German College ("Deutsches Kolleg"), declared the flag to be that of the Fourth Reich,[3][4] aspired to by the college in his revised draft constitution of 9 November 1999, it became the college's flag. At this time period the Saar was a satellite state of France. This is what the Union Jack would look like if it were a Nordic Cross flag. The flag with the swastika and white disc centered was used throughout (19201945) as the NSDAP flag (Parteiflagge). PSA: This is NOT the flag of the Byzantine Empire. 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