Sincerely, Or a young stag on the mountains of Bether.". God also brought the animals to Adam so he could name them. When he made Eve, he took a rib, closed up Adams side with flesh and then he brought the woman to Adam. How do I know? If you want to believe they did, thats totally fine with me. I think we both agree that God doesnt need to appear in human form to bring the animals to Adam or to perform surgery on him. Not all of the time of course, how else would they have rebelled against Him. When Eve gave birth to Seth (at age 130) she viewed him as a replacement for Abel. Genesis 3:8. And to the hill of frankincense. I think for me it comes from the song In the Garden, it is a peaceful way to think God is walking with us. My main point throughout has been to direct people back to Scripture to see what it really says. The impression people usually get is that Adam and Eve were in the garden for a long time, enjoying daily walks with God. Adam doesnt need to know instantly that it is God moving about, but once God speaks to Him (whether out of a whirlwind or appearing in human form or any other form) then Adam recognizes who is addressing Him. If you want to try to build a case for the possibility, thats fine with me too. When the shadows flee away, I will go my way to the mountain of myrrh. And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise His heel.". We'll come across one more tree towards the end of the chapter. However, most people inevitably mention . "And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God amongst the trees of the garden.". God walking with people normally suggests closeness and intimacy and fellowship. No human can view the full reality of God and . Just a quick note: The verb used here in verse 8 to describe the divine movement of God mihalli (sorry, my keyboard isnt able to type this word out correctly) suggests iterative and habitual aspects. It is meant to point out to people that the text doesnt say what so many people have claimed that Adam and Eve walked with God in the garden. Adam and Eve, according to the Old Testament, are the First Humans who ever walked on earth from which all humans descended. My main point is that we dont go around saying that the Bible says that Adam and Eve walked with God in the garden, because that just isnt in there. The ESV accurately captures Adams response in verse 10. While its within the realm of possibility that Adam and Eve were 60+ when expelled from the garden, I find it extremely unlikely. Like your parents can be in the house with you and not in the same room but you can clearly hear them in another part of the house. I completely agree that Adam and Eve had the freedom to obey or disobey regarding the forbidden fruit, but that doesnt really have anything to do with my point in this post. So Adam hears a sound, which he knows is the sound of God. It does say he was afraid-afraid because they were naked. Yes this is almost like apples and oranges because our parents are here in physical form but just trying to make a point and the Bible clearly says no one knows what God looks like except His Son . I even pointed out that when the Bible speaks of Enoch and Noah walking with God it should be understood in the figurative sense of them living godly lives (as opposed to taking physical strolls with Him). So, heres one guy that wont repeat this again. Then something happened. thank you so much. But that isnt the point of what I wrote. It was perfectalmost. We speak of ourwalk with God, yet dont speak of Him being right there physically. I will make a helper suitable for him" ( Genesis 2:18 ). http://midwestapologetics.org/blog/?p=1349, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Schnorr_von_Carolsfeld_Bibel_in_Bildern_1860_009.png, https://answersingenesis.org/jesus-christ/incarnation/theophanies-in-the-old-testament/, https://answersingenesis.org/bible-characters/cain/cains-wife-who-was-she/, http://midwestapologetics.org/blog/?p=1747. I too have always heard that God walked with Adam & Eve in the cool of the day every day. Sam. The point was to urge Christians to pay closer attention to the text of Scripture. God did really walked with man physically, reasons: then Adam was sinless, only sin can hide God from us, so why should God hide himself from a sinless being? What does it even mean? If He did or didnt is still and can always be up for discussion , its a gut instinct in me that says no but at the end of the day Im just glad Im saved and can sort it out when I get to Heaven! Instead, He manifested as a violent wind, perhaps not too different than how He spoke to Job out of the whirlwind (Job 38:1). You are essentially appealing to an argument from silence. Hi Tim. In this environment, Adam and Eve had safety, abundant food, meaningful work and fellowship with God. You cant see that Leviticus expounds on how to walk with god? I found it interesting that with all the opinions to the idea of walking with God in the comments section, not too many have thanked you for letting us know that Gods Word does not say that Adam or Eve walked with God in the Garden. " (John 1:18) . God loved to come and take a walk in the garden in the evenings when the shadows were cool, and the flowers smelled sweet, and when all the animals came out to play. Thanks for the kind response. Now at that time there was an evil spirit called Satan. So when I say, The Bible just doesnt say that some people think Im saying that it didnt and couldnt have happened. This just goes on and on and on all the way through this book about how god expects his people to walk with him please read the book of Leviticus slowly it gives all the details that genesis doesnt. With that in mind, I would disagree with you on the reason you give for why God came to the garden that day. Tim,I will have to agree that scripture does not state outright that God and Adam walked in the garden together on a daily basis, as many assume, however, the earlier verses in Genesis would seem to indicate that Adam and God did enjoy some sort of periodic personal interaction, such as when God brought the animals to Adam to see what he would name them, or when God gave Adam instructions regarding the work that he was to do in the garden, and what he was, and was not, supposed to eat, and certainly when God put Adam to sleep to remove one of his ribs. Our hearts were reformed for this exact purpose. I would argue that angels are probably made in His image as well,. The NRSV's rendering makes the time more explicit, "at the time of the evening breeze" (also REB). Part of the commission to rule over creation would have included the need to study it and figure things out. God formed Adam from the dust and breathed His own life into the man (Genesis 2:7). . Randy Alcorn (@randyalcorn) is the author of over sixtybooks and the founder and director of Eternal Perspective Ministries. Other Biblical accounts clearly show this - as it is God who speaks with, walks with, and assist humans to discover His nature and His love. How cool would that be! In Lev 26 god goes into great detail about how they were to walk with god and how god would walk with them ( please dont say ohhh but it doesnt say it) it does say very loudly its deafening. Here are 6 things that you need to know, insights that will help you in your life today, in helping to refine the way you view God. More than like, Cains wife was his sister, or possibly a niece. Yes, Adam and Eve were sinless, but this doesnt mean that Gods physical presence needed to be right where they were. It was idyllic. It bothered me for the day into right now where I went on the internet to find something credible and I landed here. They could not walk in the garden naked anymore, and they had to defend their actions. If that suggestion is accurate, then it would have been a physical presence of God coming in judgment, similar to how He spoke from the whirlwind in Job. Genesis 3:2-5. Whirlwinds dont speakunless it is God appearing in that form. As you supposed, God did provide water for the animals too. Tell everyone with small kids! Im not sure what this has to do with whether they walked with God in the garden. They heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of the garden. I have been studying this part about god walking with Adam when I came across your post. And God created a new animal to be a companion for Adam and Eve. With that being said, I agree with you that it is reasonable to infer that He spent time with them, but the Bible does not imply that He did, and that was the point of this post. The sound of God that Adam heard was not the sound of God speaking, because God speaks after Adam has hidden himself, which Adam only does after he hears the sound.. Furthermore, nothing in John 1 states that Jesus walked with Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. Further, although the phrase could be translated as a strong wind, the text would still say that he came walking in a strong wind. For those of you who are unaware, this one major question is mainly centered around Genesis 3:8 where it stated "Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the lord as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the lord God among the trees of the garden.". There is no need to attribute the work to me. All the details of exactly how god walked with them are so plain to see that blind Freddy can see it. 19 Out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, >>>>>and brought them to Adam to see what he would call them. Thanks for reading and taking the time to share your thoughts. Thanks for caring about biblical accuracy. However, that fact has very little to do with whether He walked with Adam and Eve in the garden. Its sort of like saying, The Bible never says Jesus wasnt married, so He might have been. Its true that Scripture never states this plainly, but there are certain inferences people make from some verses in an effort to support such an idea. And they heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden Genesis 3:8. Conclusion. Then God shared his thoughts to Abraham of judging Sodom and Gomorrah. Im not sure that it necessarily follows that there would be ongoing communion and communication between God, Adam, and Eve. Adam and Eve heard the voice of God walking in the cool of the day.Read the KJV plus many other versions point to the fact that they walked with the voice of God. (Genesis 3:8). For example, Enoch walked with God (Genesis 5:22, 24) and Noah walked with God (Genesis 6:9). I was scanning Gen 2&3 to use the text where God walked with Adam in the garden. Adam's spiritual life, through fellowship with God, depended on Adam's respect for God's laws. Daniel, Hi Janice, Genesis 2:15-17 doesn't provide many details, 15 Then the Lord God took the man and put him into the garden of Eden to cultivate it and keep it. Im always amazed at how strongly some people try to defend certain positions. ? Dear Tim Chaffey, my nephew and I have read and discussed these verses endlessly. I am so happy to find your website. Thanks! Tim> However, that fact has very little to do with whether He walked with Adam and Eve in the garden. My goal in these types of blog posts is to encourage believers to look carefully at the text. Our adversary seeks to discredit the validity of the Word of God. I agree that it is very possible that God walked with Adam and Eve in the garden but there is no written statement(s) that support this. Why werent they mentioned? Adam and Eve's "murder" was considered by Jesus to be at the "beginning," not the end, of geologic time. The article is not imposing a narrow standard that makes no room for inference or implication. So again, lets not be naive to think that God didnt spend time with them! Thank you for your thoughts I do understand the whirlwind , but Gen says God made them clothes from an animal to replace mans attempt of covering his nakedness. Jesus is Lord God, He is the Son of God. For Adam to know that the sound he heard was the sound of God, he must have heard it before. There are several possibilities, such as siblings, nephews, and nieces. 21 AND IF YOU WALK CONTRARY TO ME AND NOT LISTEN TO ME THEN I WILL ring 7 times more plagues upon you 22 I will also send wild beasts among you 23 and if you will not be reformed by me by these things BUT WILL WALK CONTRARY TO ME 24 THEN I WILL WALK CONTRARY TO YOU and punish you 7 times more for your sins I hope this clarifies my objective in the post. But I dont think we need to have them walking with God in the garden to show how bad sin is. ILL TAKE YOUR APOLIGE NOW ,,WHERE THEY USE TO WALK WITH GOD ,THEY CHOOSE TO HIDE !! What is the one thing that He values the most, as we know it? In terms of the theological questions of how God could do this, one answer could be that it is an embodied pre-incarnate Christ, the Angel of the Lord, who is himself the Lord and who appears many times in the Old Testament. As I mentioned in my conclusion, God certainly could have taken taken strolls with Adam and Eve, but the Bible does not directly teach this, and I have my doubts about it. As God had promised, they became mortal. Again, nothing in Scripture tells us that they walked with God or carried on a conversation with Him. They probably werent in the garden for very long at allperhaps just a few days to a few weeks. I am not disagreeing and saying that Gods reason for coming was not to proclaim judgment, I am disagreeing by saying that we can not say for sure what Gods reason was for coming, Scripture doesnt clarify. If youve been impacted by our resources, we invite you to make a year-end gift before December 31. Hi Ian, I could not find it. God speaks, asking Adam where he is. No, the One they were hiding from was one they were familiar with walking in the garden. Sorry for the delayed response. Based on the sheer number of people who have claimed this, it must be found somewhere in the Bible, right? So if we can claim that they walked with God in perfect communion before sin, then we can stress how bad sin is because we dont get to do that anymore. Second, Eve was made from Adams rib (or more accurately side), indicating that they both had physical bodies (Genesis 2:21). God sent Adam and Eve out of the garden where grew the tree of life. There may have been thousands of years, who knows? Maybe their nakedness was not exposed genitalia, but realized they were naked in some other maner. God told them to be fruitful and multiply. But it would be nice for you or someone else to show me where the Bible ever makes that claim. They turned to their own ways, sinful ways. Tim, thanks for striking the axe at the root of this human imagined concept. Im not sure where you got the idea that Im hellbent on trying to make a point of saying that Adam and Eve did not walk with God. I have no problem with the idea that Adam and Eve may have walked with God, which is what I stated in the conclusion of the post and in several follow-up comments. God bless! I worship in His presence and put off His presence! God goes to great lengths to explain how he wants the relationship to be. When God said, Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat Adam knew what a tree was, what the garden was, and what eating was. Gen 2:16-17. Upon marrying, Moses recounts God's command for husband and wife: "a man shallbe joined to . Can you show me some similar articles? It seems from Scripture that they lived on manna exclusively. See my article, Was Jesus Married? Fifth, if someone doesn't like the idea that God knew they would be . Thank you for your post and your diligence to pursuing Biblical accuracy! 00:00. What an absolute honor we have as human beings to be made in the image of the Creator and to be called to demonstrate who He is and what He is like. He gives instructions and warnings and they fear Him when they disobey. Im not really sure how your comment addresses Eds point at all or anything in the article. But thats not at all what is going on here. To add to the post above, another theological consideration is the temple. Answer (1 of 21): The context once again gives the answer. 1991 - 2023 Eternal Perspective MinistriesAll Rights Reserved. He is eternally begotten of the Father, one with the Father, in essence, but he had not yet become flesh. If used in this sense, Adam and Eve did "walk" with God prior to sin because there was no fracture in their relationship with God. What if they were some sort of Spiritual Being as God and his Son were at the time. However, God did come physically to Abraham and ate. Lord God (pre-incarnate Jesus Christ) was also the burning bush that app. No one is perfect, but when you are walking with God your desire should be to see your own selfish desires die for the sake of seeing God transform you more and more into the image of His Son: "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. Adam was ashamed to stand before God as he was now a sinner who was about to face his righteous God. I dont recall what prompted it, but I do remember searching for the phrase, God walked with Adam in the cool of the day. I believe the context of the above verse was a time when ADAM was NOT at enmity with God and they conferred with each other. After all, how old did they have to be to be a keeper of sheep and a tiller of the land? 15? Now turn to Chapter 4 of Genesis verse 13 Cain said to the Lord, My punishment is more than I can bear. Again, in Gen 3:24, we see that God drove the man out of the Garden of Eden. Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the LORD God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the LORD God among the trees of the garden. And then. Because the Bible never says that Adam and Eve walked with God. In other words, man had a physical body made from the ground. If He was walking, then this must have been a theophany - a pre-incarnate appearance of the Second Person of the Trinity. If so, then it seems to follow that there would be ongoing communion and communication between God, Adam, and Eve. Hi Tim. To use your example, it would be like if people repeatedly said, The Bible says Adam watched the stars every night while in the Garden. Even if he did do that, the Bible doesnt say that he did, and it would be worth correcting someone on that point. God also provided quail for a whole month (Numbers 11:1920). Just read John 1 it says God was there in the beginning and on earth in the flesh so just read the book. I had always taken it for granted too that God walked with Adam in the cool of the day which He very well might haveand Id like to use my imagination and believe that He did but the Bible definitely doesnt say that He did. Keep up the good work. But Im not arguing that this is how He did appear. We cant know because the Bible doesnt speak to this at all. How do your children know how to live? Of course, the eternal Son, the Word by whom the Father made all things has always been present at the Father's right hand. Psalm 29 also uses strong imagery to show how the sound of the Lord acts upon nature like a powerful storm, breaking and bending trees and stripping off their leaves (Psalm 29:59, NET). But its entirely different to claim that the Bible teaches or implies that they did when there just arent any statements in the text that teach or imply that position. Of course, since I work in a ministry that emphasizes Genesis 111, Im going to hear it more than most people. Mentions of Eden are also made in the Bible elsewhere in Genesis, in Isaiah 51:3, Ezekiel 36:35, and Joel 2:3; Zechariah 14 and Ezekiel 47 use paradisical imagery without naming Eden. In other words, human beings were made to reflect Gods gloryto show the world what God is likethrough who we are and what we do. Gen 3:8 - Adam walking with the Lord God in Eden. In Job, God spoke out of the whirlwind. God, by nature, is Spirit and a spirit does not have a bodily form. There are many, many Christians who have heard and taught that Adam and Eve physically took walks with God in the garden before they sinned. Thanks for the comments. It would be accurate if the point of my article was to claim that Adam and Eve did not walk with God in the Garden prior to sin. 18? I would agree with much of what you wrote, and I believe Ive stated as much in the article and follow up comments. Seasoned or mature believers should know the text, the text is the milk, living the text is the meat. Far too many people run around claiming, The Bible says Adam and Eve walked with God in the garden, but as Ive pointed out, it doesnt say that. Never stop, word will not go void! In the book of Genesis we read that Adam used to walk with the Lord God in the cool of the day. Here is just one example about working the land 26:1 make no idols. This walking refers to living a life that pleases God. The complete bible account of the story of Adam and Eve can be found in Genesis 1:26 to Genesis 5:5. We do see examples of theophanies in the Old Testament where God does appear to people in human form, as He did to Abraham. Adam tried to put the blame on Eve, and Eve tried to put the blame on the serpent, but God was angry with all three of them! Im not opposed to this idea. Of course, Adam and Eve walked with God in the Garden, its written right there in Genesisumahis it 3? Theres no reason to think that they waited 60+ years to have children when they were already husband and wife and were created by God to fulfill the instructions He had given them, including be fruitful and multiply.. Its not like Genesis 5:24 (Enoch walked with God) or Genesis 6:9 (Noah walked with God). Well, in Genesis 2, Adam names the animals, and the only words quoted from him in Gen. 2 have to do with what he said when he met Eve: This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh (Genesis 2:23). Here is a link to the Wikicommons page showing that this illustration is in the public domain: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Schnorr_von_Carolsfeld_Bibel_in_Bildern_1860_009.png. Then let the land rest on the seventh year right? And they heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of the garden. 9 The Lord God called to the man and asked him, "Where are you?". The only mention of walking in that part of Scripture is while Adam and Eve are hiding from God in the garden. Adam (perhaps Eve too) was familiar with Gods presence. I think it would be odd for God to first come walking in the garden with Adam and Eve only after they had sinned. Christ exemplified the relationship that mankind should have with our heavenly Father and creator. I think too many people are confused about what it means that something is directly stated, or implied, or that we might infer, etc. And it was a good animal and God was pleased. I think your comments were probably addressing this point though (http://midwestapologetics.org/blog/?p=1747). WHY? Because Adam and Eve had eaten the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, the Lord sent them out of the Garden of Eden into the world. The Lord God Walking in the Garden. . The Bible doesnt say that, and that is the point of the article. Since they were both born in Genesis 4 (after the expulsion from the Garden), they didnt necessarily have to be 120+ by the year Seth was born. Do you think that statement is a stepping stone for misleading Gods people? I have a problem with telling people that the Bible says they did this. As I mentioned in the post, even if He walked through the Garden to speak to Adam and Eve it would not prove that they used to take walks with Him. Thanks for the kind words. Im not a Greek or Hebrew expert, or even a student. I depend on what I can find on sites (currently I use biblehub.com). Adam & Eve had been very naughty and they were hiding from the Lord!! 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