His interests include strategy, grand strategy in the Middle East and the Asia Pacific, international relations and politics, maritime strategy, counter-terrorism, counter-insurgency warfare, and maritime policy. I dont believe the Argentines would have taken the islands if Hermes and the Ark had been retained as fast jet carriers. Safeguarding the essential trade routes that Britain depends on for 95% of its economic activity. They were escorted by the AA ship HMS Tynwald, escort destroyers HMS Cowdray, HMS Zetland, sloop HMS Enchantress, minesweepers HMS Algerine, HMS Hussar, HMS Speedwell, corvettes HMS Pentstemon, HMS Samphire, MS trawlers HMS Cava, HMS Othello and the motor launches HMS ML 273 and HMS ML 295. Salacia, ' Comments may automatically be held for moderation by our team, they will be approved as soon as possible in accordance with our. In the unlikely event of the Ark royal being serviceable ,theres a fairly good chance that the Argentineans would have sunk her. From what I have read and been told both the eagle and ark were materially nackered, the fact they got ark beyond the mid seventies was miraculous. Commander Task Group 324.3 and Flag Officer Submarines: Commander Task Group 317.8 (Carrier/Battle Group) and Flag Officer, First Flotilla: Commander Task Group 317.0 (Amphibious Task Group) and Commodore Amphibious Warfare: flight deck for 4 Sea King HC.4 (not embarked), This page was last edited on 25 December 2022, at 07:32. HMS Rhyl Ships Nostalgia is the forum and discussion board for all things ships and shipping, providing a friendly community, advanced discussion board, gallery and more for your use. Urlana (British, 6852 GRT, built 1941), Chase Closed My Account When Will I Get My Money, R.S. K.G. N.A.F. Shaw, RNR), HMS Polruan (Lt. C.D. After having been relieved these destroyers arrived at Gibraltar around 0545A/6. The landing ship Derwentdale was also part of this convoy. HMS Sheffield after the Exocet missile strike in May 1982 that killed 20 and injured 26 of its crew In a combat zone Andy had additional duties and was part of the ship's first-aid E.M.C. Navy X gets new technology off the drawing board and into the hands of our people on operations at a pace that has not been possible before. Even Thatcher asked if Ark could be used in 82 but was told she was too far gone with scrapping well underway. Key to liberating the Falklands was air superiority, largely delivered from HMS Hermes and Invincible. Pacific Exporter, Port View. Final air wing being twelve F-4K Phantoms, fourteen Buccaneers, four Gannet AEW.3, a Gannet COD and eight helicopters for ASW and SAR. The cruisers and fleet destroyers then proceeded to Lampedusa. The last two would have seriously altered the shore bombardment profile if they where available. Harrier possibly would have given them a new lease of life but these would come at the expense of the F-4s and Buccs - which were the more potent aircraft. Of course, if Britain has committed to keeping carrier capability then it may well be the AEW.7 instead which was to have a rotodome much like the E-2 Hawkeye and subsequently significantly improved capability. i doubt she would have even got to the falklands. Having another capital ship, which was an Audacious class aircraft carrier equipped with McDonnell Douglas Phantom FG.1 alongside Blackburn Buccaneers, would have been a huge asset, and potentially could have made a difference in the Falklands War and perhaps even have prevented it. It would certainly render the need.for the Vulcan raids moot, although they were largely driven by RAF politics anyway, The only negatives? It was a mistake for the Ministry of Defence, despite the technical and mechanical difficulties which beset HMS, Social Media and Comment Moderation Policy, The importance of the Glasgow area to the Royal Navy. This is a list of the naval forces from the United Kingdom that took part in the Falklands War, often referred to as "the Task Force" in the context of the war. Theseus (British, 6527 GRT, built 1908), Maron (British, 6487 GRT, built 1930), Better news for RN carrier aviation too. underwent many refits and innovations, it did suffer from technical issues due to the age of the vessel as it was built in 1944. McNair, MBE, RNVR), HMS Inchcolm (Skr. Covers this near enough and up to modern day. Almaack, From convoy KMS A1 the following ships were assigned to ' A Sector '; Dewdale, Lalande, Manchester Port, Ocean Viceroy and Ocean Wanderer. G.H. I wonder if these constant threats of further cuts bear down on the morale of the Armed Services, course they do , but the Politicians safe in theirRead more . Renny, DSC, RNR), HMS Vetch (T/A/Lt.Cdr. Edward Rutledge, R.deL. W. Harmsen, RNN) and HMS Escapade (Cdr. Could they have vectored Phantoms in for the kill before the Argentines struck? However, sadly the aircraft carriers which replaced her were not able to be equipped with traditional aircraft. It's certainly an interesting hypothetical and it isn't as clear-cut as you might think. Durban Castle, Simpson, RNR) and HMS Rysa (T/Lt. They were escorted by the sloop HMS Deptford, cutters HMS Hartland, HMS Walney, corvettes HMS Rhododendron, HMS Violet and the motor launches HMS ML 480 and HMS ML 483. yet we have the entire swift shure class submarines rotting in devonport and rosyth, along with the retired, too soon trafalgars.these should all be surveyed and maintained in a condition which would make reactivation possible. Despite efforts to take the stricken boat in tow, she was eventually cut adrift. H.R. It had already had a reprieve and its time in-service date put forward. Awatea, Lochmonar (British, 9412 GRT, built 1924), Having, in my opinion, one of the best naval strike aircraft of the period available ends up with the runway put out of commission far faster and far more permanently than the Black Buck raids would ever accomplish. W.A. This Endurance served an amazing career during the Falklands Conflict with The early warning Garnets would have made surprise low level attacks less successful, and the bombing of their airfields and naval ports would have been a strong possibility. Letitia (British, 13595 GRT, built 1925), They were escorted by the escort destroyers HMS Eggesford (Lt.Cdr. W.R. Slayter, DSC, RN, flying the flag of Rear-Admiral C.H.J. 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The likelihood of retaining the territory would have been very low, and likely that the Argentines would have held back their plans. It was temperamental in cold weather. Convoy KMF O 1 was to pass the Strait of Gibraltar around 2230A/6; it was made up of the (troop) transports; Currently serving in the Royal Navy? Our days of being able to project influence through our military are over. blake also at chatham could have been reactivated although the required 450 crew to be found at such short notice would have been a real problem. Say a 18/12 split, though that's my opinion at this point. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. But the large landing craft also saved many lives. For the landings at Oran three main beaches were selected. ' Something needs to carry the Chinooks and Wessexes after all. Why is shipbuilding invisible to some in Scotland? Glenfinlas, J.B.G. HMS Rhyl Two ships of the Royal Navy have been named HMS Rhyl, after the town of Rhyl in Wales: HMS Rhyl (J36) was a Bangor -class minesweeper launched in 1940 and sold in 1948. A.C. Whitcombe, RNR), HMS Mull (Lt. J. Plomer, RCNVR), HMS Rysa (T/Lt. W.Y. Andrew, RN), HMS Clacton (A/Lt.Cdr.(Retd.) Not only would we have had far to few aircraft, but those aircraft would have had a lower reaction and operation rate as the harriers. Whether it be in the heat of the desert or ice of the Antarctic, we are ready for action in the most extreme environments on earth. These ships were considered expendable. Marnix van St. Aldegonde (Dutch, 19355 GRT, built 1930), Whether or not the British would have taken the war to the mainland, is open to conjecture, but the possibility of such action would have halted their ambitionsRead more , The fact is that the Government and MOD are not interested in History Lesson or assessing future threats only the moment is considered and turn a blind eye to the Future. Withdrawing the Ark in 79 would only have further convinced them of our North Atlantic/NATO centric pivot. Hamer, RN), HMS Largs (Cdr. Around 1300A/3, the light cruiser HMS Jamaica (Capt. Around 1830Z/3, HMS Sheffield parted company with the convoy to proceed to Gibraltar where she arrived at 0815A/3, she was to fuel and then join ' Force O '. J.S. Moving slowly in open waters, she proved easy prey for Argentine aircraft. Delinlian, Ocean Rider, AR was on a wing and a prayer by the time it was decommissioned. Its not as straightforward as many people make out. Duchess of Bedford (British, 20123 GRT, built 1928), Finally, the scrapping of HMS Ark Royal took place in 1980, and this marked an end to the Royal Navys ability to project conventional fixed-wing air-power. ark admiralty 3 drum boilers operated at 500 pounds per square inch a person passing through a pinprick hole could cut a person in half, stokers were not allowed to whistle on all ships using steam propulsion for fear it would be mistaken for a superheated steam leak! A.H.T. E.N.V. They could get offloaded to a land based airstrip and would be useful in giving extra air support to the troops but that might be too risky as all the jets, fuel and munitions would be exposed. C.G.V. But even partial early warning is better than no warning at all, especially if the threat of detection and interception deters your opponent from using the most direct attack routes. Llangibby Castle (British, 11951 GRT, built 1929), Harper, RNR), HMS Hoy (T/Lt. T.B. Cooke, RN), HMS Hussar (Lt. R.C. Salacia (British, 5495 GRT, built 1937), Group VII, 1st division, Empire Mordred, Havildar, Pacific Exporter and St. Essylt. Charles H. Cramp, The biggest issue for Ark Royal would have been the weather. Twin Auto 6inch and twin Auto 3 Inch turrets would have ruined any ashore forces day. First up, a navy with Ark Royal would be an utterly different navy. I think yes, as I find it coincidental that Ark was decommissioned in Dec 1979 and scrapping began in 1980 followed by the invasion in 1982. Following Royal Ede, DSO, RN), HMS Stornoway (T/A/Lt.Cdr. The Argentinian junta invaded because they believed that Britain did not have the national and political will to liberate the islands, so the availability of Ark Royal would not have made a difference to their reasoning imo. I wonder if we will ever learn? The new contract amendment will oversee the conversion of Aster 30 missiles to the Aster 30 B1 Naval UK standard, as well as the development of autopilot software and logistics updates. Fine condition! Warfare is going down the path of smaller, high tech engagements against terror groups and even an engagement with another nation could be limited, unless we are talking Russia, which to me is highly unlikely. The point about pitching deck limits is especially important. KMF A1 was destined for Algiers and KMF O1 was destined for Oran. Group IV; HMS Royal Scotsman, HMS Royal Ulsterman and HMS Ulster Monarch. Tegelberg (Dutch, 14150 GRT, built 1937), Physical and mental fitness are at the heart of Royal Navy life. Ettrick, Havildar (British, 5401 GRT, built 1940), A. Stirling, RNR) and HMS Shiant (T/Lt. Ocean Rider (British, 7178 GRT, built 1942), the talk of the 7th astute being cancelled is yet another failing of this nation to follow the old adage of in times of peace, prepare for war,. P.G. H. Kirkwood, DSC, RN), HMS Farndale (Cdr. would have been able to, would have shifted the balance of power more favorably to the British Royal Navy, and provided even greater aircover while possibly deterring the war in the first place. Gannets would have eliminated the use of type 42s as radar picket, saving Coventry and Sheffield. Hutton, DSO, RN), HMS Lookout (Lt.Cdr. A final bombardment was then carried out and also aircraft from North African air bases carried out attacks. G.C.P. Aircraft. Could keeping HMS Ark Royal have prevented the Falklands War? R.M.J. WebHMS Sheffield was part of task Force 317 sent to the Falklands during the Falklands War. I have a couple of other lined up to read/listen to about the Falklands too. R.F.R. Around 2230A/5, the monitor HMS Roberts (Capt. The picket warships would only have 15-20 minutes warning (and due to technical glitches and human errors, sometimes no warning at all). The headquarters ships HMS Bulolo (Capt.(Retd.) W.G. Ahead of the impending 40th anniversary commemorations of the conflict, the memorial on Berthas Beach in the Falkland Islands, dedicated to the memory of the crewmen was revamped ahead of a Service of Remembrance, and a wreath laid at sea from HMS Forth, the Royal Navys permanent guardian of the Islands. Moffatt, RNR), HMS Othello (T/Lt. Ark's Gannets had an endurance of five hours. Lalande (British, 7453 GRT, built 1920), Alcinous (Dutch, 6189 GRT, built 1925), A.W. As one operator recalled: "While close to the coast with a rough sea, and perhaps with electronic countermeasures jammers in use, it could be hard work to keep a workable picture.". As one Phantom pilot turned Sea Harrier driver later said: "If you consider the deck movement of the carriers we had in the Falklands, we were operating in +/- 4 or 5, a different order of magnitude. On one hand, Ark Royal offered a powerful combination of early warning from Gannets, the speed and firepower from the Gannets, and the long-range punch and buddy-tanking capability of the Buccaneers. Edward Ruthledge (American, 7177 GRT, built 1942), J.D. ' T.B. HMS Plymouth was a Royal Navy Rothesay -class frigate. eagle was in far better condition and, as still goes on ships are not maintained as they are in the u.s in a state where reactivation is possible h.m.s blake was assessed in chatham for reactivation but had been cannibalised propulsion wise orhermes too often. Dempo (Dutch, 17024 GRT, built 1931), Leinster (British, 4302 GRT, built 1937) HMS Rhyl was a Rothesay-class or Type 12I anti-submarine frigate of the Royal Navy, launched by Lady Macmillan on 23 February 1959 and commissioned in October 1960. Following Royal Navy service she was sunk as a target in 1985. Winchester Castle. Rear-Admiral McGregor transferred his flag to HMS Tartar. Thankfully, the Sea Harrier was not limited in deck movement very much at all!". HMS Plymouth was a Royal Navy Rothesay -class frigate. Viceroy of India (British, 19627 GRT, built 1929), Bockett-Pugh, DSO, RN) and HMS Wishart (Cdr. Obviously a third carrier would have been beneficial and given us greater odds. Orbita (British, 15495 GRT, built 1915), Its American-designed AN/APS-20F search radar had first entered service in 1945. Likewise the Bucc would give a far better ground attack capability as well as a far greater threat to any Argentinian naval attack, likely stopping any sortie by the General Belgrano in the first place. Take the helos off and you might get a few more Phantoms on and as the air threat is going to be the issue here and the Phantoms can also do ground attack, the Buccs may well lose a couple to get the fighter number up. Hampson, RNR), HMS Ronaldsay (T/Lt. Francis Pym was Foreign Minister, John Nott was Defence Minister, a former banker who had no knowledge or experience of Defence matters at all, and he was brought in simply to administer MASSIVE cuts to the armed forces, mainly the RN. Given the state of her engines by the time she was retired Im not sure in she couldveRead more . P.C. We empower all our people, by respecting and valuing what makes them different. Harry, I partially agree with you here, however, youve negated the fact of what Ark Royal could bring to the party. 04 April 2022 They also tried Bulwark and pretty much the same answer. She was to escort them to Algiers but all had to be scuttled and the troops were taken on board HMS Spey. Modern day list of ships supposedly lost by the British in the Falklands War, still showing Invincible and Hermes as considered or possibly sunk or damaged the old myths die hard: Here a more recent Argentine photograph from the press shows an impressive attack against HMS Penelope with the caption A greeting to your Queen: Royal Marines are able to operate across all terrains and environments using an arsenal of highly specialised equipment and weapons. Russell, RN), HMS Vanoc ( A/Cdr. Oxborrow, DSC, RN). After dark on the 6th, the M/S trawlers HMS Coriolanus (T/Lt. The harrier with the ski jump gave the Royal Navy a critical edge. G.H. [exactly which ships of the escort went on with this part of the convoy will have to be researched further.]. His book is a great read, but its also heavily biased. All five minesweepers were involved in clearing two minefields off Port Stanley. Crewe-Read, RN), HMS Princess Beatrix (Cdr.(Retd.) 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